[RDD] RD networking machines

Gregg Wonderly gergg at cox.net
Mon Sep 17 16:14:38 EDT 2012

On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Wayne Merricks <waynemerricks at thevoiceasia.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> My understanding is probably completely wrong on this so I'm not 
> surprised at the "won't somebody think of the children" response. I 
> honestly don't know enough about the linux "domain" stack to have a 
> better judgement but seeing as he mentioned there were 2 Windows boxes, 
> it seemed like the obvious/only way to go (samba).
> I'm always unfortunate to be building mixed OS "domains" but would love 
> any clear info on pure nix network setups with single sign on etc.  
> Especially if theres a nix way of doing things with open ldap/kerberos 
> auth that I can feed to Windows machines.  Open LDAP is a necessity from 
> what I can tell as I need replication across WAN links to different 
> offices that aren't always reliable.
> Its something I've been struggling to get to grips with for quite a 
> while now.

With Linux, the right path for authentication is to use PAM services.  There is PAM support using LDAP and other interfaces into Windows Active Directory, and countless other authentication mechanisms provided by vendors into the Linux arena.  One of my customers used this to bring authentication over to my servers running Java applications.  I wrote a Java login module that used JNI to talk to PAM, and I could then authenticate the users of the app using their Active Directory services.  In distributed environments, being able to "turn off" access for a user, the day you walk them out the door, is a big deal.


> Regards,
> Wayne Merricks
> The Voice Asia
> On 17/09/12 14:00, Cowboy wrote:
>> On Monday 17 September 2012 08:11:48 am Wayne Merricks wrote:
>>> Depends how in depth you want to go but seeing as you don't really want
>>> to be setting up new users manually, Samba as a domain controller is the
>>> way to go.
>>  Oh, Lord no !!
>>  Why do bad windows hacks, necessary to force windows to do what
>>  Microsoft only invented about 1998 or so, when *nix has had this natively
>>  since the late 70's ?
>>  Samba is merely a hack to allow windows to do badly what *nix has done
>>  very well for very, very much longer.
>>  Remember, at it's heart and soul, Windows is a single user single tasking
>>  video game that has been expanded, while *nix is a multi-user multi-tasking
>>  network based system at its heart.
>>>  I must admit
>>> Linux "domains" have always confused me coming from a Windows background.
>>  Not too surprising, since Micro$oft has misused the term to mean something
>>  different that it historically means, creating confusion that didn't previously
>>  exist.
>>  Even today, Micro$oft still uses the same term for different meanings, one
>>  historical, and one made up, without distinction.
>>  Confusion is the expected result.
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