[RDD] Chaintos still not chaining.

Bill Smith hbco2 at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 1 01:01:15 EDT 2007


A note:  Log names are case-sensitive.  Make sure that log names in the
chain instruction exactly match the actual log name.  If the log name is
capitalized and the chain specification is all lower-case, the chain
instruction will load an empty log.

And stop.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Earl Smith" <des28 at NAU.EDU>
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System"
<rivendell-dev at techweb.rfa.org>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Chaintos still not chaining.


> Thanks for the guesses!  I checked all of them.
>
> -- David
>
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Bill Smith wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Further guesses, though don't know if any of the following make any
> > difference:
> >
> > 1.  do you have the chains defined under the same group as the logs
>
> I don't understand "group".  Unix group is meaningless here as the chains
> are not files, and audio group wouldn't apply to chains either....  Do you
> mean service?  If so, yes, we only have one service.
>
> > 2.  do you have a rduser group defined under /home
>
> Yes.
>
> > 3.  do you have file permissions set for the /var/snd directory and
> > respective .wav files so that RDAirplay can play the .wav files
specified in
> > the log.
>
> Yes, and all the other aspects of using Rivendell work great.
>
> > 4.  do you have user permissions set to play logs
>
> Yup.
>
> > 5.  is the active group enabled for the user (RDAdmin ->manage
users->assign
> > group permissions
>
> I don't understand "active group", but the default user has permission for
> all groups.
>
> > 6.  are hosts enabled in RDAdmin->edit services
>
> Yup!  All the hosts we have are enabled in our one service.
>
> > 7.  are valid cart ranges defined in RDAdmin->manage groups
>
> Sure.  And none of the enforce boxes are checked.  Seems to be working.
> We have thousands of carts that are all playing fine with our unchainable
> logs.
>
> > 8.  There is a default cart type for groups as defined in
RDAdmin->manage
> > groups, all mine are set to audio (as opposed to macro)
>
> Yup.
>
> > 9.  When you see a stalled chain, what service is defined at the top of
the
> > RDAirplay screen?  I believe it needs to be a valid service.  A default
> > service can be defined in RDAdmin->manage hosts->RDAirplay.
>
> Yup.  I noticed that problem quite a while ago.
>
> > 10. Enable paused events is not checked in RDAdmin->manage
hosts->RDAirplay
>
> Nope.  I tried checking it once but didn't care much for the changes.
>
> > 11. RDAdmin->manage hosts->RDAirplay: Main Log Output 1 and Main Log
Output
> > 2 are both set to soundcard 0.  (And all other outputs are set to valid
> > soundcard settings. in my case soundcard 0).
>
> At the moment, there's only one soundcard in this system.  Everything
> plays on soundcard 0.
>
> > 12.  Start and stop dates are not defined in logs generated in
RDLogEdit.
> > Status is "always" in the log list for each log.
>
> Yup!
>
> > Shotgun Sally
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Earl Smith" <des28 at NAU.EDU>
> > To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System"
> > <rivendell-dev at techweb.rfa.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RDD] Chaintos still not chaining.
> >
> >
> > > Very good ideas.  But alas, no luck.  Our daily logs are 24 hours long
> > > (for sensible reasons), and my test logs were 2-3 carts long.  All
fail to
> > > chain, in the exact same manner.
> > >
> > > I have not tried to chain a log to itself, but I will do that.
> > >
> > > -- David
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Bill Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "KRPI Radio" <techstuff at krpiradio.com>
> > > > To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System"
> > > > <rivendell-dev at techweb.rfa.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [RDD] Chaintos still not chaining.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > David Earl Smith wrote:
> > > > > > Still doesn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you creating logs manually?
> > > > >
> > > > > IIRC, when I first tested Rivendell, I never was able to get
Chain-to
> > > > > working. RDAirPlay would run till the end of the log and then just
> > stop
> > > > > at the chain-to. However, when I created events, clocks, etc. and
> > > > > started generating 24 hour logs the problem disappeared. Right now
I'm
> > > > > running a CVS version of RD from about a week ago and I don't have
any
> > > > > trouble with chain-to's.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suspected way back in the early tests that there was something
weird
> > > > > with the chain-to but I was testing it will manually created logs
that
> > > > > would be unusable for realistic broadcast scenarios. When I was
able
> > to
> > > > > produce "good" logs, I wrote the steps I took on the wiki (Log
> > Creation
> > > > > Tutorial).
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > Hi Andy, David...
> > > >
> > > > We generate all logs manually and run them (chained) 24 hours a day
> > without
> > > > a hitch.  I have been busy and must apologize to David for not
> > responding.
> > > > David, I wonder how large your logs are?  Ours are fairly short, 1/2
> > hour to
> > > > 1 hour.  I don't know if longer logs would affect the chain process.
We
> > > > don't use any hard start times, and believe all transitions are
segue,
> > > > however play has worked just as well.  We make great use of
voiceovers
> > in
> > > > the logs.
> > > >
> > > > You might try making a very simple log, perhaps only an ID, and
chain it
> > to
> > > > another short log.  Perhaps you can adjust parameters (also in
RDAdmin?)
> > and
> > > > find a combination that works.  We can chain a log to itself, by the
> > way,
> > > > without difficulty.
> > > >
> > > > Andy, could you send me compiled binaries with the changes to
RDAirplay
> > that
> > > > Stefan has made?  Would very much like to test the ability to insert
an
> > ID
> > > > from the second log.
> > > >
> > > > Thank You!
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
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